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		<title>By: David Wang</title>
		<link>http://buzzmedia.com.my/article/social-media-fad-for-marketers/comment-page-1#comment-461</link>
		<dc:creator>David Wang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, thanks for the comment! Well, it&#039;s not just marketing. It should be honest, valuable, customer-centric marketing. I understand where you&#039;re coming from though :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, thanks for the comment! Well, it&#39;s not just marketing. It should be honest, valuable, customer-centric marketing. I understand where you&#39;re coming from though <img src='http://buzzmedia.com.my/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: FH</title>
		<link>http://buzzmedia.com.my/article/social-media-fad-for-marketers/comment-page-1#comment-460</link>
		<dc:creator>FH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 13:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Social Media Marketing - too many people and companies are focusing on the first two words. But i think the third word is what its all about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Social Media Marketing &#8211; too many people and companies are focusing on the first two words. But i think the third word is what its all about.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Israel</title>
		<link>http://buzzmedia.com.my/article/social-media-fad-for-marketers/comment-page-1#comment-454</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Israel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 03:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice dude. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think at this point, social media has an abundance of opportunities for anybody (quite literally) to make money: PR, Ads, Media buyers, news makers, bloggers, tech people, designers, mgmt consultants, you name it. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mainly because, (1) nobody has really defined/measure social media properly yet. (2) Companies, brands, organisations don&#039;t really know what to do with it - so they&#039;ll pay anybody that sounds smart. and (3) There&#039;s still a lot of hype out there. Thankfully, that&#039;s starting to recede (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/jun/24/charles-arthur-blogging-twitter&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/jun/2...&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But once the dust settles when it&#039;s no longer new, exciting and cool), many people will be out of jobs. So, we have to ask ourselves - what will get me to the end of the funnel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice dude. </p>
<p>I think at this point, social media has an abundance of opportunities for anybody (quite literally) to make money: PR, Ads, Media buyers, news makers, bloggers, tech people, designers, mgmt consultants, you name it. </p>
<p>Mainly because, (1) nobody has really defined/measure social media properly yet. (2) Companies, brands, organisations don&#39;t really know what to do with it &#8211; so they&#39;ll pay anybody that sounds smart. and (3) There&#39;s still a lot of hype out there. Thankfully, that&#39;s starting to recede (<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/jun/24/charles-arthur-blogging-twitter" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/jun/2.." rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/jun/2..</a>.)</p>
<p>But once the dust settles when it&#39;s no longer new, exciting and cool), many people will be out of jobs. So, we have to ask ourselves &#8211; what will get me to the end of the funnel.</p>
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		<title>By: Time Spent on Social Networks Has Tripled &#8211; Social Media Marketing is not a fad, period. &#124; Keep Moving Forward .Asia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Time Spent on Social Networks Has Tripled &#8211; Social Media Marketing is not a fad, period. &#124; Keep Moving Forward .Asia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 06:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] While there&#8217;s a lot of hype surrounding social media marketing as the new rules of marketing, including written books on social media marketing such as the one written by Tamar Weinberg, there are also skeptics with different views calling social media marketing as the biggest fad. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] While there&#8217;s a lot of hype surrounding social media marketing as the new rules of marketing, including written books on social media marketing such as the one written by Tamar Weinberg, there are also skeptics with different views calling social media marketing as the biggest fad. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Wang</title>
		<link>http://buzzmedia.com.my/article/social-media-fad-for-marketers/comment-page-1#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>David Wang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Darren you are exactly right with KPIs and measurement. Thanks for the links, I may try out ViralHeat

@Daniel like Ben said there&#039;s lots of hype about social media now and lots of opportunities to make money off it. I think there&#039;s nothing wrong with helping clients to get started in the right direction but I think agencies need another point of differentiation if social media is going to become regular media

@Shalabh I love the phrase &#039;agency love&#039; LOL! Your idea of Stories is great and gels completely with social media--it&#039;s about the conversation.

I have a secret to admit--I intentionally made the title and tone of this post provocative to make a little splash in this big pond. Blame it on reading Copyblogger too much. But I think it has worked because I&#039;ve got lots of great feedback from you guys. I hope you subscribe to the blog&#039;s RSS feed and come back again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Darren you are exactly right with KPIs and measurement. Thanks for the links, I may try out ViralHeat</p>
<p>@Daniel like Ben said there&#8217;s lots of hype about social media now and lots of opportunities to make money off it. I think there&#8217;s nothing wrong with helping clients to get started in the right direction but I think agencies need another point of differentiation if social media is going to become regular media</p>
<p>@Shalabh I love the phrase &#8216;agency love&#8217; LOL! Your idea of Stories is great and gels completely with social media&#8211;it&#8217;s about the conversation.</p>
<p>I have a secret to admit&#8211;I intentionally made the title and tone of this post provocative to make a little splash in this big pond. Blame it on reading Copyblogger too much. But I think it has worked because I&#8217;ve got lots of great feedback from you guys. I hope you subscribe to the blog&#8217;s RSS feed and come back again.</p>
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		<title>By: Shalabh Pandey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shalabh Pandey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 01:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So this calls for asking two questions:
1) Do we really think marketers are stupid to be giving their monies to the first person who walks in claiming whatever? 
2) How is this different from choosing any agency or marketing services partner?
Being probably of same experience and age as Carolyn (earlier in the comments thread), I know that these things come and go. But having said that, I know people who adopt it first have obvious advantages.
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Important takeaway: Marketers are not stupid- but they should be more dynamic. My advice: Don&#039;t fret about who is coming to you with a plan. Hear everyone- and be people/expert agnostic. Think Ideas. Think Stories and think concepts. And see if they are gelling with your marketing objectives. Period.
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I have always agreed that online discussions around this topic are rife with agency love talks. Many of them &#039;offline&#039; guys turning online specialists and other people turning this whole thing into an &#039;agency love fest&#039;. 
OpenSocial, Facebook connect are again just a drop in the ocean of the tools that could be used for harnessing conversations online. In this context it becomes important to marry the right concepts with the right tools. 
Stories rule. If you can weave one well enough, people will listen.

Cheers
Shalabh
http://www.chasingthestorm.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So this calls for asking two questions:<br />
1) Do we really think marketers are stupid to be giving their monies to the first person who walks in claiming whatever?<br />
2) How is this different from choosing any agency or marketing services partner?<br />
Being probably of same experience and age as Carolyn (earlier in the comments thread), I know that these things come and go. But having said that, I know people who adopt it first have obvious advantages.<br />
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Important takeaway: Marketers are not stupid- but they should be more dynamic. My advice: Don&#8217;t fret about who is coming to you with a plan. Hear everyone- and be people/expert agnostic. Think Ideas. Think Stories and think concepts. And see if they are gelling with your marketing objectives. Period.<br />
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I have always agreed that online discussions around this topic are rife with agency love talks. Many of them &#8216;offline&#8217; guys turning online specialists and other people turning this whole thing into an &#8216;agency love fest&#8217;.<br />
OpenSocial, Facebook connect are again just a drop in the ocean of the tools that could be used for harnessing conversations online. In this context it becomes important to marry the right concepts with the right tools.<br />
Stories rule. If you can weave one well enough, people will listen.</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Shalabh<br />
<a href="http://www.chasingthestorm.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.chasingthestorm.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Y.S. Tan</title>
		<link>http://buzzmedia.com.my/article/social-media-fad-for-marketers/comment-page-1#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Y.S. Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 22:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David, 

Admittedly, I&#039;m not a social media expert &#039;yet&#039; (and I&#039;d like a benchmark/scorecard/background experience to boot with that pls! &amp; though categorizing myself at least as a  &#039;specialist&#039; is good enough to say i do kinda specialize in some parts social media, warranted?:)) It&#039;s still in the early ages (at least in M&#039;sia?), as an aspiring social media Go-To-Guy who&#039;s got to learn fa-a-ster than I can actually indulge in what&#039;s like holding on to the seat of my pants in this Social Media world! 

My take on being the Go-To-Guy, it&#039;s simply a crazy passion cum common-sense business model that helps those who need it that matters and for as long as it matters to them. I&#039;m not gonna catch myself &#039;guilty&#039; walking and talking about it like an expert unless I&#039;m constantly making those valuable mistakes and sharing the glory amongst my peers to help others if i do get &#039;up&#039; there.  

I probably see that as the safest approach to be a gold-nugget social media expert that out weights the sand-laden &#039;experts&#039; (not till my hair turns white i hope)  and just continue learning from the pros like you guys n gals!
My social media HalfCents:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David, </p>
<p>Admittedly, I&#8217;m not a social media expert &#8216;yet&#8217; (and I&#8217;d like a benchmark/scorecard/background experience to boot with that pls! &amp; though categorizing myself at least as a  &#8217;specialist&#8217; is good enough to say i do kinda specialize in some parts social media, warranted?:)) It&#8217;s still in the early ages (at least in M&#8217;sia?), as an aspiring social media Go-To-Guy who&#8217;s got to learn fa-a-ster than I can actually indulge in what&#8217;s like holding on to the seat of my pants in this Social Media world! </p>
<p>My take on being the Go-To-Guy, it&#8217;s simply a crazy passion cum common-sense business model that helps those who need it that matters and for as long as it matters to them. I&#8217;m not gonna catch myself &#8216;guilty&#8217; walking and talking about it like an expert unless I&#8217;m constantly making those valuable mistakes and sharing the glory amongst my peers to help others if i do get &#8216;up&#8217; there.  </p>
<p>I probably see that as the safest approach to be a gold-nugget social media expert that out weights the sand-laden &#8216;experts&#8217; (not till my hair turns white i hope)  and just continue learning from the pros like you guys n gals!<br />
My social media HalfCents:)</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Yan</title>
		<link>http://buzzmedia.com.my/article/social-media-fad-for-marketers/comment-page-1#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren Yan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, 

Social media may not be new, but the scale of work needed to manage the online perception of an advertisers&#039; brand will require the support of today&#039;s social media gurus (and tomorrow&#039;s traditional online agency suits).   The right execution (with the right partners) will create the social CRM needed to compete in the future (http://bit.ly/Biws7).

What many marketers fail to do however, is to adapt the same template for digital marketing on social media - measuring their success on a specific set of performance indicators.  At the very least, marketers should be able to measure the number of times their brand is mentioned on cyberspace, the context behind the mention, and determine on a scale whether it should be responded.  As we speak, there are tools such as Tinker (http://www.tinker.com/) and Viralheat (http://www.viralheat.com/) which allows marketers (and agencies) to benchmark social chatter.

Cheeers, 
Darren</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, </p>
<p>Social media may not be new, but the scale of work needed to manage the online perception of an advertisers&#8217; brand will require the support of today&#8217;s social media gurus (and tomorrow&#8217;s traditional online agency suits).   The right execution (with the right partners) will create the social CRM needed to compete in the future (<a href="http://bit.ly/Biws7" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/Biws7</a>).</p>
<p>What many marketers fail to do however, is to adapt the same template for digital marketing on social media &#8211; measuring their success on a specific set of performance indicators.  At the very least, marketers should be able to measure the number of times their brand is mentioned on cyberspace, the context behind the mention, and determine on a scale whether it should be responded.  As we speak, there are tools such as Tinker (<a href="http://www.tinker.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.tinker.com/</a>) and Viralheat (<a href="http://www.viralheat.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.viralheat.com/</a>) which allows marketers (and agencies) to benchmark social chatter.</p>
<p>Cheeers,<br />
Darren</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus Chhan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus Chhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 04:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey David, i agree there are way too many &quot;social media gurus&quot; out there right now. And i think it actually inhibits the growth of online advertising spend in the market as well because marketers look at what these &quot;experts&quot; have to say and i don&#039;t think it fills them with the right kind of confidence to spend more online or with social media.  Good piece, nice headline ha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey David, i agree there are way too many &#8220;social media gurus&#8221; out there right now. And i think it actually inhibits the growth of online advertising spend in the market as well because marketers look at what these &#8220;experts&#8221; have to say and i don&#8217;t think it fills them with the right kind of confidence to spend more online or with social media.  Good piece, nice headline ha!</p>
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		<title>By: Vernon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vernon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 20:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, but, but..I&#039;m a social media expert... LOL!

Good article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, but, but..I&#8217;m a social media expert&#8230; LOL!</p>
<p>Good article.</p>
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